tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post159623879478336924..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: Frank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-2167765263200916332008-02-10T08:45:00.000-07:002008-02-10T08:45:00.000-07:00Denial ain't just a river 5 miles downstream from ...Denial ain't just a river 5 miles downstream from LANL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-55506468910611627212008-02-09T20:10:00.000-07:002008-02-09T20:10:00.000-07:00Also Joni Arends...head of CCNS...supposedly has a...Also Joni Arends...head of CCNS...supposedly has a law degree and probably feels like she has an edge she never had before in her crusade against the LAb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-65606609480989405852008-02-09T13:14:00.000-07:002008-02-09T13:14:00.000-07:0011:40 AM wrote:Don't think that they don't enricht...11:40 AM wrote:<BR/>Don't think that they don't enrich<BR/>themselves with "attorney's fees".<BR/><BR/>You are correct! Their non-profit status also gives them tax advantages that you and I pay for in the end. The home organization pays no income tax, and donations made to them are tax deductible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-54330761137094077692008-02-09T12:10:00.000-07:002008-02-09T12:10:00.000-07:00That wiki article referenced by 8:22 AM concerns S...That wiki article referenced by 8:22 AM concerns Strategic Lawsuit Against Public Participation (SLAPP), a practice of preemptive law suits aimed (in theory) at stifling free speech. The emphasis in that article, more in its links, is on anti-SLAPP, legislation that upholds the rights of free speech. <BR/><BR/>Free speech has limits. There is a big difference between stating your opinion directly, such as "Nuclear weapons are evil. Shut down LANL.", and creating a cloud of distrust with malicious and unfounded claims. If LANL is damaged by having to defend against false claims, then LANL should sue for damages.<BR/><BR/>It seems to me that if LANL is governed by the requirements of NMED and EPA, then the action of Amigos Bravos should be against NMED or EPA for either inadequate requirements or lack of enforcement. Amigos Bravos appears to be circumventing established environmental review procedures with unfounded claims. This indicates to me that they have an agenda other than spiritual water.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-43258977762534899182008-02-09T11:40:00.000-07:002008-02-09T11:40:00.000-07:00These two organizations share a common legal servi...These two organizations share a common legal service, Western Envronmental Network, a gigantic western non-profit network with a regional office in Taos<BR/>===================================<BR/>12:34,<BR/><BR/>..a gigantic western "non-profit"<BR/>network...<BR/><BR/>Note quotes above.<BR/><BR/>Don't think that they don't enrich <BR/>themselves with "attorney's fees".<BR/><BR/>The self-righteous wackos also have<BR/>quite a scam going.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-18674883284365909362008-02-09T08:22:00.000-07:002008-02-09T08:22:00.000-07:00http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SLAPP(remove carriage...http://en.wikipedia<BR/>.org/wiki/SLAPP<BR/><BR/>(remove carriage return)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-76552950028531303022008-02-09T00:34:00.000-07:002008-02-09T00:34:00.000-07:00It is good to see some favorable commentary expres...It is good to see some favorable commentary expressing the Lab side, or shall I say, the rational side, of this story, complete with some actual facts. The bit about PCBs being no different downstream than upstream is interesting.<BR/><BR/>I expect that logic will not prevail. We will soon see the usual flames from the Santa Fe anti-nukes. Something like "This is a cover up! What would you expect from arrogant scientists who think they are the best and brightest, but who don't mind killing our children!" etc. Brace yourselves. <BR/><BR/>In the previous topic, referring to the Amigos Bravos, 2/8/08 9:24 AM said:<BR/><BR/>"These people are whackos. Their concerns are primarily based on emotionalism, not demonstrable empirical evidence of impending harm to health."<BR/><BR/>Couldn't have said it better myself.<BR/><BR/>For what it's worth, I did a little bit of searching and found that Amigos Bravos are closely tied with Concerned Citizens for Nuclear Safety(CCNS), co-plaintiff, and another antinuclear group with only one apparent objective: to close the Lab and put an end to Nudlear weapons work. These two organizations share a common legal service, Western Envronmental Network, a gigantic western non-profit network with a regional office in Taos.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if LANL could sue these people back, plus Pogo and the Los Alamos Study group to boot? Are there any examples of this? It costs the Lab a lot of money, and it costs some jobs, to defend against this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com