tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post2504439654535419791..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: Welcome to the club, PNNLFrank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-82036555676573685852007-11-01T00:49:00.000-06:002007-11-01T00:49:00.000-06:00Someone call the waaambulance.You want infrastruct...Someone call the waaambulance.<BR/><BR/>You want infrastructure for free. Well, if you are so smart, go rent some space, buy equipment, and try to get new programs or maintain your existing ones. You wouldn't stand a chance, you cowardly little punk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-50026106621166445482007-10-31T21:18:00.000-06:002007-10-31T21:18:00.000-06:00Poster 4:16 PM, a $250 K FTE rate would be nirvana...Poster 4:16 PM, a $250 K FTE rate would be nirvana for most of LANL's TSMs. The average TSM rate at LANL is currently running over $400 K per year and quickly rising! <BR/><BR/>Give me the PNNL's FTE rates and I would be overjoyed. Also, it is my understanding that the 1830 rate (which you list as $250K) is what would be used when doing work for other government agencies (i.e., WFO for the Feds). The 1831 rate is reserved for private company research at PNNL. If LANL had a Fed-WFO rate of $250K we could begin to grow the project base away from our heavy dependence on NNSA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-56111770430741199302007-10-31T16:16:00.000-06:002007-10-31T16:16:00.000-06:0011:50 pm; no the 1831 work doesn't cost $800k/FTE,...11:50 pm; no the 1831 work doesn't cost $800k/FTE, but the 1830 work doesn't cost $400/FTE either. PNNL, last I checked, was more like $250k/FTE for a mid-level scientist doing 1830 work (varies depending on the organization and type of work).<BR/><BR/>Trust me, the 1831 work is far more expensive than the 1830.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-87163439165831089372007-10-31T00:05:00.000-06:002007-10-31T00:05:00.000-06:00boo hoo.I want to use all of the infrastructure an...boo hoo.<BR/><BR/>I want to use all of the infrastructure and not pay for it.<BR/><BR/>waa waa.<BR/><BR/>Go cry to your mother. Maybe she will care.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-71918788245701395242007-10-30T23:50:00.000-06:002007-10-30T23:50:00.000-06:00"I don't know where you got your information but c..."I don't know where you got your information but charge out rates on "1831" research at PNNL (private work done under the Battelle banner) are nearly twice as high as the DOE or other gov't agency (WFO) research." (7:43 PM)<BR/><BR/>So we're to believe that FTE rates on 1831 WFOs at PNNL cost around $800 K per FTE? I don't think so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-36545649109343191012007-10-30T22:59:00.000-06:002007-10-30T22:59:00.000-06:00And where to you work, 9:21 pm? Certainly not at ...And where to you work, 9:21 pm? Certainly not at LANL, I hope. After all, that would make you a POS, too. Actually, it would make you a big, stinking, double-dip POS plus a hypocrite. Oh, and don't forget the lazy part, either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-42147768380270958012007-10-30T21:21:00.000-06:002007-10-30T21:21:00.000-06:006:49 - DOE/NNSA gives their scientists no job secu...6:49 - DOE/NNSA gives their scientists no job security, yet they block any attempts by the staff to secure job security via other means. <BR/><BR/>You are not blocked from job security by other means. You could get another job. <BR/><BR/>You are a cowardly and lazy POS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-90461711202983357852007-10-30T19:43:00.000-06:002007-10-30T19:43:00.000-06:006:49 pm, I don't know where you got your informati...6:49 pm, I don't know where you got your information but charge out rates on "1831" research at PNNL (private work done under the Battelle banner) are nearly twice as high as the DOE or other gov't agency (WFO) research. The extra is what Battelle scrapes off the top and that is why Battelle in particular likes that system. I think DOE gets some of it, too, as "rent" for their facilities. It is certainly NOT cheaper.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-36263399479599210942007-10-30T18:49:00.000-06:002007-10-30T18:49:00.000-06:00Poster 6:57 AM, you have no idea what you are talk...Poster 6:57 AM, you have no idea what you are talking about.<BR/><BR/>If staff could work on WFO projects at half the current LANL TSM rates under the banner of Bechtel then most TSMs would be overjoyed to do it!<BR/><BR/>That is exactly what PNNL staff have been able to do. When working on non-DOE WFO projects the PNNL staff get to bill it as being under the Battelle banner and the labor rates are then much less.<BR/><BR/>The PNNL method sounds like a great idea to help encourage project diversity at the labs, but that is clearly not DOE's agenda and, thus, they aim to snuff it out.<BR/><BR/>DOE/NNSA gives their scientists no job security, yet they block any attempts by the staff to secure job security via other means. It's a very sick situation that DOE has created for the workforce at the national labs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-65798300574325469702007-10-30T06:57:00.000-06:002007-10-30T06:57:00.000-06:00Hang on a second. You all would be screaming blood...Hang on a second. You all would be screaming bloody murder if our Bechtel overlords started taking your lab space and leasing it out to private companies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-35371612027904995542007-10-29T23:27:00.000-06:002007-10-29T23:27:00.000-06:00It seems as if DOE and NNSA are intent on inflicti...It seems as if DOE and NNSA are intent on inflicting the maximum pain on the national labs and are prepared to give the 'finger' to Congress on their desires for greater diversity in the lab project portfolios.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-68940798133909752782007-10-29T22:58:00.000-06:002007-10-29T22:58:00.000-06:00Count on the DOE to continue to f*ck up the comple...Count on the DOE to continue to f*ck up the complex until massive layoffs are needed throughout the whole national lab system. <BR/><BR/>This is yet another piece of strong evidence that the weapon labs would be better off working under almost any agency than the dimwits over at DOE/NNSA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-71058287015030378372007-10-29T19:38:00.000-06:002007-10-29T19:38:00.000-06:00The Labs make money on WFO. They charge a premium...The Labs make money on WFO. They charge a premium to the non-DOE funder. Taxes are increased above an beyond what DOE pays. AND DOE TAKES a 3% FEE OFF THE TOP THEMSELVES. WFO is a cash cow for both DOE and the Labs. They're just pimping you out and getting their piece of the action.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-58832089204360124402007-10-29T18:06:00.000-06:002007-10-29T18:06:00.000-06:00I used to work at PNNL and their use contract alwa...I used to work at PNNL and their use contract always bugged me a bit. Battelle always pushed that work and pushed (by rewards and recognition) patents and commercialization. My feel was always, "is this really what the customer, DOE, wants?" Apparently not.<BR/><BR/>Think about it. If you paid that much for a lab would you want them concentrating on work for you or work for themselves? What is in it for DOE?<BR/><BR/>That being said, it's going to be painful to a lot of people at PNNL and for that I'm sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-24944606204847812492007-10-29T13:42:00.000-06:002007-10-29T13:42:00.000-06:00More competency froum our well informed, and "ethi...More competency froum our well informed, and "ethical" govermentAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com