tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post4149644912815519370..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: One Year AnniversaryFrank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-36592355366650804162007-06-04T20:01:00.000-06:002007-06-04T20:01:00.000-06:00Happy Anniversary!Happy Anniversary!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-31771652167564912532007-06-04T06:50:00.000-06:002007-06-04T06:50:00.000-06:006/3/07 9:46 PM wrote, "So a PD in C was on track t...6/3/07 9:46 PM wrote, "So a PD in C was on track to be converted, did everything right, was a star, etc."<BR/><BR/>Since when do you have to be "a star" to be converted in C division? You either work for someone in the good-ole boys club or you work for the ADCLES or her husband. The PD has performed better than most of them. Still is not getting converted ... and yes ... all over a couple of milligrams. Go ask Gene Peterson the kind of extreme investigation that was called over a couple of milligrams and why someone who just doesn't work for "the right person" does not get converted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-65233066085554025342007-06-03T21:46:00.000-06:002007-06-03T21:46:00.000-06:00So a PD in C was on track to be converted, did eve...So a PD in C was on track to be converted, did everything right, was a star, etc. <BR/><BR/>And a couple of milligrams later, they are out on the street. <BR/><BR/>Harsh place to work!<BR/><BR/>(Afraid I would have to call BS on that one).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-45660012322030228592007-06-03T19:11:00.000-06:002007-06-03T19:11:00.000-06:0012:45 - I have known of several people where I wor...12:45 - I have known of several people where I work that have been hiding small injuries so that they will not be persecuted. If you admit in C-Div that you spilled a few milligrams of depleted uranium you get a full blown investigation and punishment results in the form of not getting converted and fired. Great advertisement for NOT being a PD in C-Div folks!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-89422028192999218692007-06-03T12:45:00.000-06:002007-06-03T12:45:00.000-06:00I haven't seen this recent change widely discussed...I haven't seen this recent change widely discussed: Now, if you go to the health center with an ergonomic injury complaint, you MUST bring your supervisor with you.<BR/><BR/>That's one way of reducing incidents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-46476150325635158472007-06-03T10:10:00.000-06:002007-06-03T10:10:00.000-06:00Oh good grief - let's talk some facts, which Mikey...Oh good grief - let's talk some facts, which Mikey is failing to discuss. Paper cuts at LANL land you in OC-Med because of the culture of over-reaction and fear at this place. I feel sorry for the highly paid Doctors that have to waste their time and experience on paper cuts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-74254625028514675302007-06-02T16:32:00.000-06:002007-06-02T16:32:00.000-06:00The only way to get a sense of under reporting of ...The only way to get a sense of under reporting of injuries is to compare the number of OSHA type cases against the number of worker compensation cases files by injured employees. Its never a 1-to-1 comparison since the majority of injury cases do not result in WC claims, but if there are a lot more WC cases than OSHA cases on the books, something is wrong. Both stats have to be reported to DOE by DOE M&O contractors, so someone at HQ should be doing this comparison.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-35925886632668856842007-06-02T12:34:00.000-06:002007-06-02T12:34:00.000-06:00The injury classification and safety reporting her...The injury classification and safety reporting here is consistent with other DOE sites. They seem to be able to perform work - in some cases with more construction and operations activities than here at LANL, and achieve fewer employee injuries of all kinds than here. As to continuing to talk about safety even if injury rates improve is a something done in both commercial and government business. Safety requires constant reinforcement. Injuries are NOT an acceptable part of doing business. We may not be able to eliminate all injuries, but we should be constantly working to do so. (Soap box intended!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-39046020650321310442007-06-02T11:09:00.000-06:002007-06-02T11:09:00.000-06:00another point is that there will ALWAYS be injurie...another point is that there will ALWAYS be injuries and you can't "train" or "regulate" them away. The huge majority of the injuries reported are minor "cut finger" varieties and don't MEAN anything and to NOT result in time away from work (horrors!) or workers comp.<BR/><BR/>Depending on how "injuries" are categorized and if "paper cuts" are included, then the numbers of totally meaningless.<BR/><BR/>The 30% figure is bullshit because up until that figure was announced the LANS managers were still yammering at people about "injuries" rather than praising workers for driving down the number of reportable injuries.<BR/><BR/>The POOF there was suddenly a 30% reduction? HA HAAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-16071752493113231362007-06-02T08:53:00.000-06:002007-06-02T08:53:00.000-06:006/2/07 8:19 AM - you are making the assumption tha...6/2/07 8:19 AM - you are making the assumption that the people reporting injuries are not psychologically disturbed, are telling the truth, and not simply trying to get money out of the institution by making shit up knowing damn well the management will fall all over themselves to keep things quiet and not hit the papers. The so-called victims have been proven to be liars most of the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-34517663478111704082007-06-02T08:19:00.000-06:002007-06-02T08:19:00.000-06:00While it may be that all accidents could have been...While it may be that all accidents could have been prevented, the only people who will never get hurt or never appear to have been hurt on the job are the people who never do any work, or who do perform work and don't report their injuries.<BR/><BR/>When the focus is on relativley meaningless injuries, the possible sources of significant injury will be missed. That's part of what happened in the jackhammer incident. The focus was on compliance with a questionable requirement that wasn't questioned, and a cheap solution was attempted. The result was much more than a minor laceration that required stitches.<BR/><BR/>Minor reportable injuries don't really count. The real effort should be placed on what can break bones, sever limbs, and permanently damage lungs. Taking care of the small things doesn't automatically mean you've prevented the big injuries, regardless what some might say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-81638617630928227642007-06-02T05:59:00.000-06:002007-06-02T05:59:00.000-06:00Anastasio's quote of 30% reduction in injuries is ...Anastasio's quote of 30% reduction in injuries is 100% bullshit. By LANS own records, comparing the first 5 months of calendar year 2007 under LANS to the first 5 months of CY 2006 under the University of California, there has been no improvement in safety whatsoever. None. <BR/><BR/>It is necessary to compare safety numbers during the same months as seasonal changes in activites would otherwise bias the results. Either Anastasio must know this and he's intentionally trying to mislead employees, the public, the administration, and Congress, or he doesn't know and is therefore incompetent to manage safety at LANL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-18841563188332469312007-06-01T15:28:00.000-06:002007-06-01T15:28:00.000-06:00Private executives hired at Livermore nuclear labL...Private executives hired at Livermore nuclear lab<BR/><BR/>Laboratory will focus more on national security<BR/>By Ian Hoffman, STAFF WRITER<BR/>Inside Bay Area<BR/>05/31/2007<BR/><BR/>For the first time, executives from private industry are taking places in the upper ranks of Lawrence Livermore nuclear weapons lab, in some cases pushing aside career managers for the University of California.<BR/><BR/>Lab director George Miller on Wednesday named Bechtel Vice President Steve Liedle as his second in command and six other executives from the San Francisco-based engineering giant and other private firms to key lab positions over business operations, safety, nuclear operations, facilities and more.<BR/><BR/>To make way, high-ranking executives of the lab — among them, nonproliferation and homeland security chief Ray Juzaitis, safety and environmental director William Bookless, associate director at large Bruce Warner, even human resources director and former lab counsel Jan Tulk — no longer would be listed as top managers when the new UC/Bechtel-led team takes charge in October. They along with all other lab staff in good standing will be offered jobs within the next six weeks, Miller said.<BR/><BR/>The lab's small yet respected Energy and Environmental Directorate disappeared altogether, subsumed under a new program called "global security" that includes everything from homeland security to nonproliferation policy and intelligence analysis on foreign weapons of mass destruction, all gathered under a former Army general and Battelle Vice President John Doesburg.<BR/><BR/>Those areas and other unclassified research are expected to grow rapidly and become as much a part of the lab's bottom line as its bread-and-butter mission of designing and maintaining nuclear weapons, according to Miller.<BR/><BR/>"I think our belief is that the laboratory over the next decade or so is going to become much more balanced than it currently is. It's probably two-thirds or so nuclear stuff right now," he said, predicting "much more balance, a fifty-fifty kind of a deal" with more work devoted to homeland security, climate science and developing sources of clean energy and water.<BR/><BR/>"The sense of the laboratory was that many of these energy and environmental issues were going to become important to the future of the country and to the future of the globe," Miller said. "We believe all of these fall under the rubric of global security not just defense."<BR/><BR/>The management shakeup makes clear, however, that nuclear weapons remain front and center at Livermore. Under Miller and Liedle are five principal associate directors, and two of them — Bruce Goodwin over weapons and complex integration, and Ed Moses over the National Ignition Facility and Photon Science — are funded chiefly by the National Nuclear Security Administration, the nuclear weapons arm of the U.S. Energy Department. The other principal associates include former Bell Labs physicist Cherry Murray remaining over science and technology; Bechtel Vice President Frank Russo over operations and business; and Battelle's Doesburg over global security.<BR/><BR/>More changes are to come lower down the management chain. But above Miller is a board of directors much like the one overseeing Livermore's sister lab, Los Alamos, led by university regent Gerald Parsky and Bechtel President Tom Hash, with such other members as former Clinton Defense Secretary Bill Perry, Stanford physicist Sidney Drell and a former National Nuclear Security Administration head, Gen. John Gordon.<BR/><BR/>Contact Ian Hoffman at ihoffman@angnewspapers.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-9924364197745069392007-06-01T10:24:00.000-06:002007-06-01T10:24:00.000-06:00OSHA has fairly clear guidelines of what counts as...OSHA has fairly clear guidelines of what counts as a recordable occupational injury. If you close a cut with a bandaid or steri-strips, it's "first aid" but if you use sutures, it's a recordable injury. If you get stung by a bee during your lunchtime walk, or you burn yourself on the cup of coffee you just reheated in the microwave, it's not "occupational." <BR/><BR/>I just can't believe LANS has achieved a 30% reduction in injuries simply by setting a goal to do so. I would like to see the statistics on types of injuries that are being recorded. If ergo injuries have gone down (easy to fake, and easy to blame on the workplace), and if the "non-occupational" injuries have gone down, while cuts and sprains remain steady, then I'd guess it's a change in our approach to recordability. <BR/><BR/>If ALL injury types are decreasing, then I might, just might believe that this data is real.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-67144313488562863272007-06-01T04:52:00.000-06:002007-06-01T04:52:00.000-06:00exactly right.... if all they report are numbers a...exactly right.... if all they report are numbers and percentages then it's all meaningless....<BR/><BR/>is the data retrievable?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-65921634196858826142007-05-31T22:31:00.000-06:002007-05-31T22:31:00.000-06:00What exactly qualifies as an injury? Is there a wa...What exactly qualifies as an injury? Is there a way to check if someone you know was injured is being counted in the statistics? And why is there no mention of accidents? Were there more accidents but fewer "injuries" than last year?Frank Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-6840485756562043622007-05-31T21:05:00.000-06:002007-05-31T21:05:00.000-06:00they're not cooking the books .... they just CLASS...they're not cooking the books .... they just CLASSIFY accidents and injuries and such differently so the the numbers don't APPEAR in the reports.<BR/><BR/>and this is always the problem with NUMBERS as being the final product of these accident charts.... they mean nothing.... yet they will ballyhoo the 30% reduction figure to make themselves look good despite the fact that there is no real difference in actual number of injuries or accidents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-63056382007612411222007-05-31T18:23:00.000-06:002007-05-31T18:23:00.000-06:00Hey - has anyone else heard about all the ADs and ...Hey - has anyone else heard about all the ADs and upper-muckity-mucks behind tied up in re-org meetings? I heard that the Lab IS being re-orged and Terry wants any and all science-related efforts under his control. Mallory was fighting him but now that Mallory is going to be PAD-OPS, there really is nothing to stop Terry from ruining science at this Lab. Just curious if anyone else knows anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-40605207258051581422007-05-31T17:04:00.000-06:002007-05-31T17:04:00.000-06:00And reporting 30% fewer incidents, aka cooking the...And reporting 30% fewer incidents, aka cooking the books.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-76873470218694762792007-05-31T09:30:00.000-06:002007-05-31T09:30:00.000-06:00Yes, indeed it is easy to have 30% less injuries w...Yes, indeed it is easy to have 30% less injuries when you are doing 80% less experimental work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com