tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post4950682124385970829..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: Frank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-7505996126755933742008-06-14T08:00:00.000-06:002008-06-14T08:00:00.000-06:00Please stop insulting kids by comparing them to LA...Please stop insulting kids by comparing them to LANL employees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-51633862534575472332008-06-13T16:28:00.000-06:002008-06-13T16:28:00.000-06:006/12 9:48 pm: "You think of LANL employees as kids...6/12 9:48 pm: "You think of LANL employees as kids, eh?"<BR/><BR/>Of course. Spoiled, immature, insulated from the real world, self-absorbed, finger-pointing, feeling entitled, and shirking responsibility.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-53366692293058531892008-06-12T21:48:00.000-06:002008-06-12T21:48:00.000-06:00"Do you let your kids blame everything they do wro..."Do you let your kids blame everything they do wrong on you?"<BR/><BR/>You think of LANL employees as kids, eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-33052902575009362302008-06-12T21:11:00.000-06:002008-06-12T21:11:00.000-06:0011:00 am: "Every day my mind turns to the same tho...11:00 am: "Every day my mind turns to the same thought..."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, that's called Alzheimers. So sorry for you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-74851889589060348272008-06-12T11:00:00.000-06:002008-06-12T11:00:00.000-06:00"Do you let your kids blame everything they do wro..."Do you let your kids blame everything they do wrong on you?"<BR/>(2:44 PM)<BR/><BR/>It's so invigorating to watch LANS upper management step up to the task and take some responsibility for problems at LANL. I'm sure they are worth ever penny of their highly inflated salaries and big bonuses. <BR/><BR/>Every day my mind turns to the same thought... if only we can find some way to bring in more of that swell Bechtel management, things at LANL will just keep getting better and better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-89321455925589181802008-06-11T14:44:00.000-06:002008-06-11T14:44:00.000-06:0011:54 am: "Shipping a drum of radioactive waste - ...11:54 am: "Shipping a drum of radioactive waste - "tagged, both physically and electronically, as not conforming to the standards required for shipment" - 175 miles and burying it 2000 feet underground is more than just a simple error. It is a management failure"<BR/><BR/>First, shipping it 175 miles is no bigger a "failure" than shipping it 2 feet. Second, LANL doesn't bury waste at WIPP. I'll just bet you are unable to think of any kind of human "failure" that ISN'T a "management failure." Do you let your kids blame everything they do wrong on you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-23484414992817058612008-06-11T12:43:00.000-06:002008-06-11T12:43:00.000-06:0011:54 AM asked, "It is a management failure. Why n...11:54 AM asked, "It is a management failure. Why not address the failure before getting over it and moving on?"<BR/><BR/>Because the ADs, PADs, and Mikey aren't accountable for anything except for counting their bonuses. They blame everything on the low-life workers below them. They call LANL corporate but only when it suits their needs, otherwise there would be accountability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-73133518367847879942008-06-11T11:54:00.000-06:002008-06-11T11:54:00.000-06:00"I agree in principle. However, an ADs job should ..."I agree in principle. However, an ADs job should not be at risk over a trivial non-issue such as this. A simple error, compounded and enabled by ambiguous rules. Get over it and move on."<BR/><BR/>Shipping a drum of radioactive waste - "tagged, both physically and electronically, as not conforming to the standards required for shipment" - 175 miles and burying it 2000 feet underground is more than just a simple error. It is a management failure. Why not address the failure before getting over it and moving on?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-10115858558796003862008-06-11T11:15:00.000-06:002008-06-11T11:15:00.000-06:0010:58 am: "And what is so wrong about having ADs a...10:58 am: "And what is so wrong about having ADs and PADs take responsibility for things that occur in their Directorates? Shouldn't some risk go along with that nice, big salary they receive when they accept those positions?"<BR/><BR/>I agree in principle. However, an ADs job should not be at risk over a trivial non-issue such as this. A simple error, compounded and enabled by ambiguous rules. Get over it and move on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-10176557724020422522008-06-11T10:58:00.000-06:002008-06-11T10:58:00.000-06:00"What we need is a fear-based culture, not a knowl..."What we need is a fear-based culture, not a knowledge-based one." (8:21 PM)<BR/><BR/>We already have a fear-based culture at LANL. Is that not yet clear to everyone at LANL? Does LANS need to come up with more policies to further demonstrate this point?<BR/><BR/>And what is so wrong about having ADs and PADs take responsibility for things that occur in their Directorates? Shouldn't some risk go along with that nice, big salary they receive when they accept those positions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-81336906713523310932008-06-11T06:57:00.000-06:002008-06-11T06:57:00.000-06:008:21, don't you remember the phrase "shared fate" ...8:21, don't you remember the phrase "shared fate" which all the newly minted AD's were touting with dewey eyes when LANS was hatched? Shouldn't it mean something more than "you do the work and we get the bonuses"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-79367144544336214032008-06-10T20:21:00.000-06:002008-06-10T20:21:00.000-06:006:23 pm: "I agree, who is the AD in charge of this...6:23 pm: "I agree, who is the AD in charge of this? This person needs to go."<BR/><BR/>Yeah, right. Kill an AD because some schmuck on the line made a simple mistake based on ambiguous rules. Yeah, that will fix it. What we need is a fear-based culture, not a knowledge-based one. Don't retrain the errant employee, just fire the AD. Yep, that's the ticket. Asshole.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-16161331293159403312008-06-10T18:23:00.000-06:002008-06-10T18:23:00.000-06:00I agree, who is the AD in charge of this? This per...I agree, who is the AD in charge of this? This person needs to go.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-49412165468207112652008-06-10T15:31:00.000-06:002008-06-10T15:31:00.000-06:00We never make mistakes. We're simply misunderstoo...We never make mistakes. We're simply misunderstood and envied. So what if we ship a drum or two that isn't permitted under some dumb policy or reg? Those rules are for the appeasement of the masses and nothing more. The best and brightest have always known better, and so we do as we please; simple as that. You may not want to hear this, but it's the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-78392764762846782822008-06-10T08:24:00.000-06:002008-06-10T08:24:00.000-06:00"Keep driving that BMW." - 10:47 PMThose new boys ..."Keep driving that BMW." - 10:47 PM<BR/><BR/>Those new boys coming to work for LANS do love their fancy cars, don't they? It's like a badge of honor for them.<BR/><BR/>But the real question is, what happened to "zero tolerance" and "six sigma" when it came to this safety incident? How come Mikey's new friends always seem to get a pass when it comes to screw-ups like this one? It appears that "zero tolerance" is reserved for those outside of LANS' little circle of Bechtel Best Buddies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-48361701094305481672008-06-10T01:04:00.000-06:002008-06-10T01:04:00.000-06:00"The Department of Energy also had to remove the d..."The Department of Energy also had to remove the drum from 36 rows back, resulting in expenses of more than a million dollars, officials said."<BR/><BR/>So someone at WIPP accepted an improperly packaged barrel then put 36 rows more in front of it and THEN noticed the problem? Truly a DOE run operation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-44857780101636986282008-06-09T23:22:00.000-06:002008-06-09T23:22:00.000-06:00Mistakes happen in an organization as large and co...Mistakes happen in an organization as large and complex as LANL. Just as mistakes happen at INEL or anywhere else. The difference is that LANL's mistakes make the news.<BR/>So DOE/NNSA got the impression that LANL was being run by a bunch of screw-ups from UC. LANL needed to be fixed. So they brought in LANS to fix the place.<BR/><BR/>It's good to read that the newsworthy mistakes being made when LANL was run by UC are no longer happening under LANS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-20664727381280925142008-06-09T22:47:00.000-06:002008-06-09T22:47:00.000-06:00I had been told by folks (hic's) from SR, when the...I had been told by folks (hic's) from SR, when they came, we do work better than you. <BR/> Keep driving that BMW.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-30661088898839186692008-06-09T22:46:00.000-06:002008-06-09T22:46:00.000-06:00Doesn't anyone understand "compliance?" Isn't that...Doesn't anyone understand "compliance?" Isn't that what we continue to get into trouble about? When do the rules really matter? When do we quit making excuses and get out of the media? Can the rest of the world be wrong all of the time? Not LOL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-71669462529190517442008-06-09T22:07:00.000-06:002008-06-09T22:07:00.000-06:00You must be new around here. My agenda is spills o...You must be new around here. My agenda is spills of effluent at PF-4. Whatever else you think you know about me appears to be incorrect.Frank Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-44196595402683851382008-06-09T21:46:00.000-06:002008-06-09T21:46:00.000-06:00Jeez, Frank, get over it. NMED will incrase it's c...Jeez, Frank, get over it. NMED will incrase it's contribution to NM state coffers, but other than that, there is no issue. Is a possibly mistaken "interpretation" of the rules enough to fire someone? I hope your next boss doesn't think so. Your agenda is showing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-23630243654800288382008-06-09T21:02:00.000-06:002008-06-09T21:02:00.000-06:00No Frank, that's not what I'm saying. I have no i...No Frank, that's not what I'm saying. I have no idea why LANL shipped the drum other than a mistake but once it got there, Moody was trying to say that the overpack met the *intent* of the permits. Rather than nitpick everything to death, it was probably easier to ship it back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-28412731123409407772008-06-09T20:34:00.000-06:002008-06-09T20:34:00.000-06:00So you are saying that LANL intentionally shipped ...So you are saying that LANL intentionally shipped this drum knowing it contained a prohibited amount of liquid because they interpreted permit requirements differently than Moody? Couldn't they have called him to ask first?Frank Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-85323588085672940662008-06-09T19:32:00.000-06:002008-06-09T19:32:00.000-06:00The apparent ambiguity resides in the fact that th...The apparent ambiguity resides in the fact that the drum itself had too much liquid (hence NCR) but when packed with the other drums in the "over pack," the entire bundle did meet permit requirements for liquid content. Hence, what Moody was referring to as "not wanting to split hairs"--- remove the drum and send it back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-69738153832901249042008-06-09T19:27:00.000-06:002008-06-09T19:27:00.000-06:00Actually, the buck stops with the Director - fire ...Actually, the buck stops with the Director - fire the bastard. Maybe if he spent more time at LANL and less time at LLNL, then perhaps he could be better connected. This is not a non-issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com