tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post5598127127043817111..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: The New Compensation DesignFrank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-47970259727619489292008-04-27T22:50:00.000-06:002008-04-27T22:50:00.000-06:009:09 pm: "Why is Mike letting this travesty contin...9:09 pm: "Why is Mike letting this travesty continue?"<BR/><BR/>Why would you possibly think Mikey has anything against travesties in his organization?? He thrives on them - they keep his subjects on edge and guessing, so they cannot get their act together to rid themselves of him, just like Nanos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-82216343424615604902008-04-27T21:09:00.000-06:002008-04-27T21:09:00.000-06:00"Who is this CJ person? I did review the archived ..."Who is this CJ person? I did review the archived presentation. I am not impressed. But as someone stated, he is an actor by trade." (3:45 PM)<BR/><BR/><BR/>So an actor is now running the new compensation program? By the looks of the video that LANL HR posted in the media archive site (int.lanl.gov/media), CJ is a very bad actor at that!<BR/><BR/>Why is Mike letting this travesty continue?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-81916420205601197382008-04-27T09:27:00.000-06:002008-04-27T09:27:00.000-06:004/23/08 9:57 AM"LLNS recently announced they are g...4/23/08 9:57 AM<BR/><BR/>"LLNS recently announced they are going to remove FTE status from the non-scientist and non-manager workers at LLNL."<BR/><BR/>No such announcement has been made. There is enough pain and fear at both labs already without adding to it with something as dumb as this.<BR/><BR/>LLNL EmployeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-5532410838415545752008-04-25T15:45:00.000-06:002008-04-25T15:45:00.000-06:00Mr Young...you may want to move this back up to a ...Mr Young...you may want to move this back up to a top posting. It is too important of a topic to be ignored. Your efforts allow the employees of LANL to speak out. Thank You!<BR/><BR/><BR/>Mike and Ben should be ashamed in permitting this compensation design to continue. <BR/><BR/>LANL is supposed to be the premier lab of the country. The issue of re-designing a structure is not necessarily the main issue. Many companies from time to time will experience change. But there is a bigger embarrassment. The redesign is being led by an individual who apparently is not experienced, as pointed out by some previous posters.<BR/><BR/>Who is this CJ person? I did review the archived presentation. I am not impressed. But as someone stated, he is an actor by trade. Is that true? This reminds me of a commercial on TV...."Hi, I'm CJ. While I may not be a Compensation Expert, I play one at LANL". How embarrassing.<BR/><BR/>To Mike and the HR management team: Are you getting this? Your new re-design is in the hands of an actor? What must Sandia compensation people be thinking? Or those at LLNL? What are other DOE sites thinking of us now? What is our own compensation group thinking? What is that group leader thinking?<BR/><BR/>I have reached out to acquaintances of mine, who by chance are HR practitioners, and are employed by large companies around the world. Not one indicated they would consider such an undertaking on an internal basis. But all agreed on several main points: a high-level of expertise is needed; a high-level of trust is needed; there must be on-going discussion from the top. <BR/><BR/>Fellow employees, consider that we have had none of the above. There is no expertise, there is certainly no trust in HR, and the only person seen or heard is an actor.<BR/><BR/>A question that must be asked by all LANL employees now: does our compensation group even employ the requisite expertise? And LANL employees have the right to demand an answer now. <BR/><BR/>We are in trouble. I urge all employees to look at the HR website for the compensation information. I urge all employees to read and understand the appeals process. I urge all employees to voice their concerns to the HR group leader and to the HR division leader now, before this takes place. <BR/><BR/>I urge Mike and the HR leader to contemplate a moratorium on this redesign. At the very least, employ or designate a person who is not "playing" the part of the compensation expert.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-18125170304675506772008-04-23T11:26:00.000-06:002008-04-23T11:26:00.000-06:009:57 am: "LLNS recently announced they are going t...9:57 am: "LLNS recently announced they are going to remove FTE status from the non-scientist and non-manager workers at LLNL"<BR/><BR/>What does that mean?? These folks will become part time (i.e., not Full Time Equivalent)? They will become non-LLNS (i.e., subcontractors)? I hope you don't mean they will lose their exempt status and become non-exempt. Sorry, but that status is set by the federal Fair Labor Standards Act and isn't subject to the whim of LLNS. So which is it??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-19255206276909002932008-04-23T09:57:00.000-06:002008-04-23T09:57:00.000-06:00LANL posters appear to spend their time arguing ov...LANL posters appear to spend their time arguing over poor grammar while LANS works harder than ever to screw the workers up the a**.<BR/><BR/>If you haven't heard yet (and most of the LANL workers haven't) LLNS recently announced they are going to remove FTE status from the non-scientist and non-manager workers at LLNL. With the loss of FTE status will come a loss of job security. I wouldn't be surprised to see a similar action regarding loss of FTE status take place at LANL. You can go back to grammar critiques and sleeping soundly, however, if you find this helpful activity in protecting your jobs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-89740653405679582592008-04-23T00:16:00.000-06:002008-04-23T00:16:00.000-06:0011:05 pm: "The use of the word "actually" was unne...11:05 pm: "The use of the word "actually" was unnecessary and made your sentence sound awkward."<BR/><BR/>It would have sounded awkward only if you had spoken it aloud. In which case, your problems with language are greater than you let on. If you meant "read awkwardly" then your comment is grammatically correct, but simply subjective, and in my opinion wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-25250464437470035972008-04-22T23:05:00.000-06:002008-04-22T23:05:00.000-06:00"Thank you for actually using correct English." (..."Thank you for actually using correct English." (8:31 PM)<BR/><BR/>Tsk, tsk, 8:31 PM! You should have said:<BR/><BR/>"Thank you for using correct English."<BR/><BR/>The use of the word "actually" was unnecessary and made your sentence sound awkward.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-55325753643771002892008-04-22T20:31:00.000-06:002008-04-22T20:31:00.000-06:0012:13 pm: "It's a sick place at which to work."At ...12:13 pm: "It's a sick place at which to work."<BR/><BR/>At least you didn't write "...a sick place to work," as 99% of the American public would have done. Thank you for actually using correct English.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-38100061883927312892008-04-22T14:18:00.000-06:002008-04-22T14:18:00.000-06:0012:13 pm: "It's a sick place at which to work."Thi...12:13 pm: "It's a sick place at which to work."<BR/><BR/>Think of really healthy, vibrant people who are usually able to cope with serious adversity, versus people with low-grade or latent systemic illness, who have a much harder time coping and sometimes die under severe adversity. LANL's "immune system" started to fail in the late 90's. Recovery may no longer be possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-13315083663832449922008-04-22T12:13:00.000-06:002008-04-22T12:13:00.000-06:00This is really lovely. LANS and NNSA have done su...This is really lovely. LANS and NNSA have done such a wonderful job managing the employee morale at LANL... not!<BR/><BR/>First came signs of the general staff fighting against upper management. Then came the general staff fighting each other along "support" and "TSM" lines. Finally, we have the TSM staff beginning to fracture and fights emerging between those who have a BS/MS degree and those who have a Phd. <BR/><BR/>This place has become one big dysfunctional family of people who are all working hard to stab each other in the back! It's a sick place at which to work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-74032415138380649132008-04-22T11:22:00.000-06:002008-04-22T11:22:00.000-06:00"We agree, however it is that funny"deliverables" ..."We agree, however it is that funny<BR/>"deliverables" thing that we need the Ph.d's for. Hello world? Hello...come on think about it...come on...think...you can do it."<BR/><BR/>How does PhD = successful delivery of deliverables?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-55704561866647428312008-04-22T11:21:00.000-06:002008-04-22T11:21:00.000-06:004:21 11:00 pm: "Sandia has plenty of Ph.d's"Yeah, ...4:21 11:00 pm: "Sandia has plenty of Ph.d's"<BR/><BR/>Yeah, as in "plenty" to accomplish what they need them for, which isn't much. LANL, on the other hand, has "way too many" Ph.D.s, especially considering that the mission is now production.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-91393509788810545152008-04-22T10:06:00.000-06:002008-04-22T10:06:00.000-06:00Anyone have the PhD counts at Sandia, LANL and Liv...Anyone have the PhD counts at Sandia, LANL and Livermore? Or is that propietary information?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-61372446534436860492008-04-21T23:00:00.000-06:002008-04-21T23:00:00.000-06:00"If your "customers" would rather deal with BS/MS ..."If your "customers" would rather deal with BS/MS people than Ph.D.'s, in terms of program deliverables and funding, and the former are so much more successful, then my question is why do you need Ph.D.'s??"<BR/><BR/>We agree, however it is that funny<BR/>"deliverables" thing that we need the Ph.d's for. Hello world? Hello...come on think about it...come on...think...you can do it.<BR/><BR/>By the way Mr Clever, Sandia has plenty of Ph.d's, it is that deliverables thingy again. Think about before you post your dumbass reply.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-75212731919989582142008-04-21T22:05:00.000-06:002008-04-21T22:05:00.000-06:007:21 pm: The 4/20 12:10 pm posting was entirely fa...7:21 pm: The 4/20 12:10 pm posting was entirely farcical, based on the mispelling of the earlier poster. The fact that you took it seriously means 1) you take yourself way too seriously, 2) you have a humor disorder, and 3) you think less is more, education-wise. If your "customers" would rather deal with BS/MS people than Ph.D.'s, in terms of program deliverables and funding, and the former are so much more successful, then my question is why do you need Ph.D.'s?? Whoops, sorry, very non-PC of me. Of course everyone knows why we need Ph.D.'s; because they cost more, that's why! Besides, if we had many fewer, we'd be Sandia!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-42477999530035984242008-04-21T19:21:00.000-06:002008-04-21T19:21:00.000-06:00"Personally, I don't think a BS is enough "eductat..."Personally, I don't think a BS is enough "eductation" for a TSM position." 4/20/08 12:10 PM<BR/><BR/>It is - I know that C, MPA, and N -divisions converted lots of BS/MS techs into staff members. Now of course these folks end up asking PhD TSMs for help, but they bring in the money, which in turn funds LOTS of PhD TSMs that can't bring in th $$. I guess they are just not as full of themselves and the customers like dealing with them. Makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-12774245829857936512008-04-21T18:46:00.000-06:002008-04-21T18:46:00.000-06:00"There are supposed to be two equivalent professio..."There are supposed to be two equivalent professional career tracks under the new TSM plan, technical and management."<BR/><BR/>One big oil company I know of did the exact same thing with their engineering staff almost 30 years ago - technical and managerial paths, with various levels. This is nothing new at all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-79085730799739110372008-04-21T11:07:00.000-06:002008-04-21T11:07:00.000-06:00Would those two career tracks be "substantially eq...Would those two career tracks be "substantially equivalent"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-69504741945747577102008-04-20T19:39:00.000-06:002008-04-20T19:39:00.000-06:00There are supposed to be two equivalent profession...There are supposed to be two equivalent professional career tracks under the new TSM plan, technical and management.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-25310513754800517462008-04-20T17:20:00.000-06:002008-04-20T17:20:00.000-06:00I believe there will be Mgt levels in a similar ve...I believe there will be Mgt levels in a similar vein to the TSM levels.<BR/><BR/>Why would you want to be in the TSM levels instead of the Mgt levels? It seems reasonable to assume the Mgt levels have relatively higher salaries, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-59612331518825723462008-04-20T15:47:00.000-06:002008-04-20T15:47:00.000-06:00I'll take a BS from UC over a PhD from UNM any day...I'll take a BS from UC over a PhD from UNM any day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-24370167276891182302008-04-20T15:15:00.000-06:002008-04-20T15:15:00.000-06:00A BS level education will be sufficient for all th...A BS level education will be sufficient for all the new TSM levels. That will allow LANS to hand out coveted TSM-6 positions to all the poorly educated Bechtel managers that LANS is shoving down the throat of LANL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-47411009414541433842008-04-20T13:15:00.000-06:002008-04-20T13:15:00.000-06:00Really? Many of the PhD TSMs seem to run on BS.Really? Many of the PhD TSMs seem to run on BS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-8897928650469436192008-04-20T12:10:00.000-06:002008-04-20T12:10:00.000-06:00Personally, I don't think a BS is enough "eductati...Personally, I don't think a BS is enough "eductation" for a TSM position.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com