tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post8891778775602288970..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: Frank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-80300769600696426652010-01-14T18:31:33.894-07:002010-01-14T18:31:33.894-07:00I took a couple classes with Dr. Salimi, and was p...I took a couple classes with Dr. Salimi, and was priveledged to speak to him many times outside of school duing my tenure at LANL. Despite his country of origin, he was always kinds, intellegent and i always got a vibe from him that he was incredibly passionate about his career and extremely patriotic. I don't think he would ever betray the USA, and it is very sad that NNSA, and this country lost such a great man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-86481228577204006292009-01-14T20:34:00.000-07:002009-01-14T20:34:00.000-07:00That's what happens to all scientists who make tha...That's what happens to all scientists who make that dead-end career move to weapons. <BR/><BR/>You can use drugs and lie on your resume (and in two "auto-biographies"), and still become president of the U.S. You can do "pay-to-play", and become a governor, and maybe a member of the president's cabinet. But no matter what, boys and girls, don't ever do classified work!!! (More dangerous to your career than drugs, lies, and corruption.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-51504668111978790482009-01-14T11:59:00.000-07:002009-01-14T11:59:00.000-07:00A google of the terms "Bezhad Salimi" and "LANL" d...A google of the terms "Bezhad Salimi" and "LANL" doesn't bring up very much. It's hard for me to believe this guy work at LANL for over 20 years. Anyone know further details about his career at the lab?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-41632417141161593642009-01-13T05:35:00.000-07:002009-01-13T05:35:00.000-07:00A Q allows access up to TSRD. RD stands for Restr...A Q allows access up to TSRD. RD stands for Restricted Data. Nuclear weapon designs are SRD or TSRD. Access to foreign nuclear weapon designs are SRD/TSRD and likely need additional clearances.<BR/><BR/>A TS clearance doesn't allow access to RD. A TS needs to have an additional rider, CNWDI, critical nuclear weapons design information, to allow access to RD.<BR/><BR/>The difference between a Q and a TS is known by all Q-clearance holders. It's also on Wikipedia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-12955934505639785752009-01-12T21:03:00.000-07:002009-01-12T21:03:00.000-07:00From 6:40, "... The attack dogs are HR Employee Re...From 6:40, "... The attack dogs are HR Employee Relations...they will seek and destroy anyone upper level management tells them to. I don't know how these people can live with themselves..." <BR/><BR/>This is true, but they won't call you until it is already too late, at which point you can kiss your career buh-bye. They are actually at the beck and call of those assholes at Legal...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-86246605693807896632009-01-12T20:28:00.000-07:002009-01-12T20:28:00.000-07:00Thanks for the info. I received a free printed edi...Thanks for the info. I received a free printed edition of Nuclear Matters: <I>A Practical Guide</I> at the Deterrence Summit last month and read it cover to cover. I found three fairly minor mistakes in it, but overall it was worth my time to read it.<BR/><BR/>And I agree, DOE is totally out of control as regards unnecessary secrecy.<BR/><BR/>That reminds me, the confirmation hearing for the new SECDOE is tomorrow. I should do a blog post on that.Frank Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-63616396313125944222009-01-12T20:12:00.000-07:002009-01-12T20:12:00.000-07:0010:41 am: Frank, your source is outdated, in spite...10:41 am: Frank, your source is outdated, in spite of the 2008 label. There is not currently in DOE any such thing as a Q "with TS authorization." That harks back tto the old "QS" days. Unfortunately, I can't prove it since DOE has taken the relevant directive on Personnel Security off-line. DOE is an agency that has become totally out of control as regards unnecessary secrecy. I hope the new SECDOE can reverse this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-40834287973417907602009-01-12T18:40:00.000-07:002009-01-12T18:40:00.000-07:00I expect we'll probably see the same with Bezhad S...<I>I expect we'll probably see the same with Bezhad Salimi... those supposedly in the know saying: "If you only knew what I know..."<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>I doubt it. <BR/><BR/>Never the less, I think from reading the published articles that his point is that he was treated differently than others that were found culpable of security violations. Not necessarily that he didn't do it.<BR/><BR/>He's going to have great fun in the deposition phase of discovery! A root canal could not be more fun!<BR/><BR/><I><BR/>I no longer have much trust in either LANS LLC or the Security office. The LANL Security office is nothing more than a pack of trained attack dogs. They'll do whatever upper management tells them to do, regardless of the ethics of their actions.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>I disagree. I've personally experienced security people going way out of their way to treat people fairly in some pretty serious circumstances since LANS took over.<BR/><BR/>The attack dogs are HR Employee Relations...they will seek and destroy anyone upper level management tells them to. I don't know how these people can live with themselves. <BR/><BR/>If HR-ER calls, don't answer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-67775824679790497742009-01-12T11:10:00.000-07:002009-01-12T11:10:00.000-07:00If ever you needed reminding of the double standar...If ever you needed reminding of the double standard that exists between the elites and everyone else in this country, look to what happened in the Bernie Madoff case just this morning.<BR/><BR/>Madoff tried to secretly mail $1 million in jewelry to his relatives last week. Because of this, the prosecution tried to have him removed from his home bound detention in his luxury NYC penthouse and moved to jail to await his trial, but the judge ruled this morning that Madoff was not a risk. He will be allowed to stay with home detention in his luxury penthouse with his butlers, personal masseurs, and fine congacs and expensive food.<BR/><BR/>This guy stole $50 B (which he admits to) and he is being treated by the courts with velvet gloves. No one from a lower class standing in society would ever be treated so kindly. <BR/><BR/>We clearly have two standards of justice in America, which can even be seen at LANL. This country has become utterly and irrevocable corrupt. I fear for the type of world that our kids are inheriting from us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-68044145227937127152009-01-12T10:41:00.000-07:002009-01-12T10:41:00.000-07:00See Section F.4 for an explanation of clearances.See <A HREF="http://www.acq.osd.mil/ncbdp/nm/nmbook/appendices/ap_F.htm" REL="nofollow">Section F.4</A> for an explanation of clearances.Frank Younghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-40788689649683953302009-01-12T10:25:00.000-07:002009-01-12T10:25:00.000-07:001/11 11:23 am: "You don't even seem to know the di...1/11 11:23 am: "You don't even seem to know the difference between a Q and a TS."<BR/><BR/>Um - there is no difference. A Q allows access to TS, with need-to-know, of course. Look it up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-8486161771678303612009-01-12T07:59:00.000-07:002009-01-12T07:59:00.000-07:00What happened when the LANS Board was found to be ...<I>What happened when the LANS Board was found to be creating security infractions by passing classified Emails around in the open?<BR/><BR/>Nothing, that's what.</I><BR/><BR/>But at least, if one of upper management takes home a laptop computer with classified information, he resigns and remembers that he has a family... (this was sarcastic, for the humor impaired)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-65520649576055049872009-01-11T20:26:00.000-07:002009-01-11T20:26:00.000-07:00What happened when the LANS Board was found to be ...What happened when the LANS Board was found to be creating security infractions by passing classified Emails around in the open? <BR/><BR/>Nothing, that's what.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-83537313491780360742009-01-11T19:40:00.000-07:002009-01-11T19:40:00.000-07:00Perhaps "...After you have investigated, if there ...Perhaps "...After you have investigated, if there was no security infraction (as in Horne and Kaupilla), you apologize and reinstate the guy..." should have read, "If you are honest, rather than like LANL management, after you have investigated, if there was no security infraction (as in Horne and Kaupilla), you apologize and reinstate the guy..."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-63525254085135040382009-01-11T18:17:00.000-07:002009-01-11T18:17:00.000-07:00"...After you have investigated, if there was no s..."...After you have investigated, if there was no security infraction (as in Horne and Kaupilla), you apologize and reinstate the guy..."<BR/><BR/>No you don't! LANL doesn't EVER apologize nor do they ever truly reinstate ... they show you the door regardless of your innocence. Once you have been picked to take the fall for the good of the institution (thanks for that one Seestrom) you are black-listed. You will never get a good raise, funding, or a job outside of LANL and you will get abused until you kill yourself or die because of stress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-52067252614375807042009-01-11T16:17:00.000-07:002009-01-11T16:17:00.000-07:00I well remember hearing security folks at LANL say...I well remember hearing security folks at LANL saying during the Kauppila and Horne episode, "If only you knew what I know about this episode, you would not defend these people. Unfortunately, I can't tell you all the details because they're classified." Right.<BR/><BR/>Well, eventually the security veil was removed and we found out the real story. The Security office people attacking Todd and John with vicious innuendos were dead wrong. <BR/><BR/>I expect we'll probably see the same with Bezhad Salimi... those supposedly in the know saying: "If you only knew what I know..." <BR/><BR/>I no longer have much trust in either LANS LLC or the Security office. The LANL Security office is nothing more than a pack of trained attack dogs. They'll do whatever upper management tells them to do, regardless of the ethics of their actions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-91659084712054840182009-01-11T13:31:00.000-07:002009-01-11T13:31:00.000-07:0011:23 AM: ...and you don't know sarcasm when it bi...11:23 AM: ...and you don't know sarcasm when it bites you in the nose!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-38975562149997849782009-01-11T12:06:00.000-07:002009-01-11T12:06:00.000-07:00After you have investigated, if there was no secur...After you have investigated, if there was no security infraction (as in Horne and Kaupilla), you apologize and reinstate the guy. You don't leave yourself open to a law suit. Except, of course, LANL has deep pockets because we pay for their lawyers while the accuser pays for his own.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-41854216315124651372009-01-11T11:23:00.000-07:002009-01-11T11:23:00.000-07:005:22 PM - The solution is to suspend the suspect's...5:22 PM - The solution is to suspend the suspect's security clearance, move the person to a job where he doesn't have access to classified information, and investigate the alleged event. If the event turns out to be serious, then prosecute, if the event is not serious and there is no malintent, continue to employ the person in an unclassified job. Simple. The nation does not want a guy like Behzad out on the streets.<BR/><BR/>6:09 PM - You can't be serious, are you really equating the security risk of a fired postal worker to that of a fired weapon scientist?<BR/><BR/>10:46 - If the security event turns out to be serious, we'll all know the instant Behzad gets arrested by the FBI. Otherwise, the event was more likely similar to others that involved LANS managers - managers that did not get fired.<BR/><BR/>10:03 PM - You appear to know nothing about the level of clearance needed to work in foreign weapon design intelligence. You don't even seem to know the difference between a Q and a TS. Qualified scientists with this clearance are very rare. You certainly can't hire them "right off the street".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-68084392882765408602009-01-11T10:34:00.000-07:002009-01-11T10:34:00.000-07:00I could write that I'm a security person, and if I...I could write that I'm a security person, and if I didn't sign my name, who would know whether I was or was not. <BR/><BR/>Over years at LANL, I have heard security people say that one of the biggest security issues at LANL are FNs from certain countries. The desire among some of these security people is to not have the FNs at LANL. The reason is that some from the same country who are naturalized and have Qs but have family living in that same country are very vulnerable to threats against their families unless they work with then FNs to provide certain information.<BR/><BR/>Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-11230727710165200812009-01-11T07:24:00.000-07:002009-01-11T07:24:00.000-07:00Anonymous at 1/10/09 10:21 PM said..."You do *not*...Anonymous at 1/10/09 10:21 PM said...<BR/><BR/>"You do *not* want a job at the lab that puts you into the position of needing to handle any classified documents."<BR/><BR/>This statement should be on the LANL recruiting posters!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-34442267450057701892009-01-10T23:03:00.000-07:002009-01-10T23:03:00.000-07:00"1/10/09 5:22 PMWaterboard the little worm1/10/09 ..."1/10/09 5:22 PM<BR/><BR/>Waterboard the little worm<BR/><BR/>1/10/09 8:08 PM"<BR/><BR/>We now have a Marxists in office so it will never happen. Maybe it would be better if we had a military takeover to proctect our freedom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-74055540326074200672009-01-10T22:46:00.000-07:002009-01-10T22:46:00.000-07:009:28 am: "This lawsuit is going to be the first of...9:28 am: "This lawsuit is going to be the first of many against LANS because of the way they are discriminating against FNs when ALL the security infractions have actually come from Q-cleared US citizens..."<BR/><BR/>You idiot - this WAS a "Q-cleared US citizen."<BR/><BR/>11:00 am: "Within the security groups at LANL, there is a strong belief that being a naturalized US citizen is not the same as being a citizen by birth, especially for those who are born in the Mideast."<BR/><BR/>As a member of "the security groups" I take offense at the implication that I am biased against naturalized citizens, since I am one, jerk.<BR/><BR/>11:18 am: "Firing a well respected Iranian born employee (and an American citizen) with long-term Phd level expertise in nuclear weapon design because of a simple security infraction..."<BR/><BR/>You have no idea how "simple" the security infraction was. You are just making an assumption. From my experience, the infraction would have had to be serious, and the managers involved would have had to agree on that.<BR/><BR/>6:01 pm: ""Violated security rules" and "mishandled" are generic reasons if you want to fire someone."<BR/><BR/>No, they're platitudes for the press when the actual details are classified, which they always are. Grow up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-3906656784796596242009-01-10T22:21:00.000-07:002009-01-10T22:21:00.000-07:00Hint to any of the scientists still left working a...Hint to any of the scientists still left working at LANL: <BR/><BR/>You do *not* want a job at the lab that puts you into the position of needing to handle any classified documents. <BR/><BR/>Security mistakes happen fairly reqularly within the nation's national security apparatus. At most institutions, the outcomes are not too severe. However, it's become clear that LANS and NNSA have made the price of making a security error way too high at the weapon labs. Just look at some of the recent history if you need reminding. <BR/><BR/>If you decide to take on one of these positions at LANL, then be sure to stash away lots of extra cash so you can hire a good lawyer when the time comes that you, unfortunately, create a security mishap. <BR/><BR/>Of course, if you're in the upper levels of LANS management, then never mind, you're in fine shape. The boys and girls at the top of the food chain are watching your back.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-83932650254646282482009-01-10T22:03:00.000-07:002009-01-10T22:03:00.000-07:00I'm sure people like Dr. Bezhad Salimi with doctor...I'm sure people like Dr. Bezhad Salimi with doctoral level expertise on foreign nuclear weapons are a dime a dozen in America. Heck, you can probably go into any city in this country and hire Top Secret cleared nuclear weapon scientists like this right off the street.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com