tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post937373877745013062..comments2023-08-27T06:53:36.768-06:00Comments on LANL: The Rest of the Story: Frank Younghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02134775226991383924noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-55997278355657034652009-06-03T11:13:27.155-06:002009-06-03T11:13:27.155-06:008:52 am: "Yet we need to hurry up and "m...8:52 am: "Yet we need to hurry up and "modernize" our decrepit nuclear stockpile before it's too late. The North Koreans are coming to get us with their vastly superior weapons system (after all, they test)."<br /><br />It's about safety and use control, not NK or any other potential adversary.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-79409539228535222962009-06-03T10:01:48.351-06:002009-06-03T10:01:48.351-06:00"So "modernizing" our weapons will ..."So "modernizing" our weapons will make Japan,South and North Korea do what exactly? I must have missed something."<br /><br />Yes, you missed that I left out North Korea in the states that are affected by our modernization program. I left it out on purpose, because our weapons (design and manufacturing)activities don't really affect the DPRK's. And I never said that it would MAKE anybody do anything. I said it MAY affect the strategic decisions made by Japan and South Korea. <br /><br />Perhaps you should read more carefully next time before commenting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-4488270331784182062009-06-03T08:52:26.740-06:002009-06-03T08:52:26.740-06:00"I believe the Japanesse will have enough con..."I believe the Japanesse will have enough confidence to "test" their first one in combat, as we did."<br /><br />Yet we need to hurry up and "modernize" our decrepit nuclear stockpile before it's too late. The North Koreans are coming to get us with their vastly superior weapons system (after all, they test). Oh lordy lord, what will we do, what will we do!? <br />Incredible!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-86674692374645838132009-06-03T08:23:28.778-06:002009-06-03T08:23:28.778-06:006/2/09 7:51 PM
So "modernizing" our we...6/2/09 7:51 PM <br /><br />So "modernizing" our weapons will make Japan,South and North Korea do what exactly? I must have missed something. You mean to suggest North Korea will stop developing nuclear weapons I guess? If so, how does "modernizing" our weapons cause that to happen. It is a simple question which has yet to be answered by anybody on this blog. I'll keep asking though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-69917608298930086282009-06-02T20:26:36.486-06:002009-06-02T20:26:36.486-06:007:51 pm: "I bet the first Japanese test will ...7:51 pm: "I bet the first Japanese test will beat the DPRK's by about 10KT. Or more. Then wait until they start to design modern bombs."<br /><br />Sorry, you are way too late. The design work was done decades ago, and the testable units are simply waiting in storage (providing a LLC program automatically). I believe the Japanesse will have enough confidence to "test" their first one in combat, as we did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-6484569703257737572009-06-02T19:51:14.771-06:002009-06-02T19:51:14.771-06:00On the subject of SK:
As much as I hate to say it,...On the subject of SK:<br />As much as I hate to say it, I do think modernizing our weapons may affect the decision of South Korea and Japan regarding their nuclear ambitions. Both countries have the technological base, both nuclear and non- nuclear, to build sophisticated weapons very quickly. I bet the first Japanese test will beat the DPRK's by about 10KT. Or more. Then wait until they start to design modern bombs. Maybe if we ask nicely they will shelter us under their umbrella....<br />That is one of the real dangers of the recent test of the N. Koreans: setting off a regional arms race.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-21515176629040328482009-06-02T13:21:55.885-06:002009-06-02T13:21:55.885-06:008:28AM Said
Sorry, that would be North Korea. Yo...8:28AM Said<br /><br /> Sorry, that would be North Korea. You get the point I am sure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-86531184197388256152009-06-02T09:28:04.168-06:002009-06-02T09:28:04.168-06:008:28AM
Which Korea?-----8:28AM<br /><br />Which Korea?-----Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-70403131979796500432009-06-02T08:28:26.484-06:002009-06-02T08:28:26.484-06:005/31/09 9:52 PM
Oh boy. Here we go again. You mus...5/31/09 9:52 PM<br /><br />Oh boy. Here we go again. You must be joking, right? I mean you really think "modernizing" our nuclear stockpile is going to have any impact on South Korea or Iran's nuclear ambition? <br /><br />Go back to your room, curl up in the corner with your flag and your flintlock. Let the rest of us deal with the bad guys.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-69397809594997334962009-06-01T21:47:23.933-06:002009-06-01T21:47:23.933-06:00Let's review the situation...
For the NNSA labs, ...Let's review the situation...<br /><br />For the NNSA labs, it is cuts, cuts and more cuts. Meanwhile, Obama has promised to raise government spending on research from 1% of GDP to 3% of GDP over the next decade. <br /><br />Let that fact sink in for awhile. This amounts to an historic 200% increase in federal science funding! Federally funded scientists in the US have never had it so good. However, the downside to this is that little of this massive boom in scientifc funding will ever make it into the dieing NNSA weapon labs.<br /><br />Instead of hiring new staff, NNSA labs are hoping for a large amount of staff attrition. Even if you have funding, the extreme overhead costs quickly eat up the funding and risk adverse NNSA/LANS policies work to kill off your research.<br /><br />For younger staff, it's pretty much become a no brainer. Why suffer with the high costs, low morale, crappy for-profit management and constant job insecurities at LANL? The place is now being run by a construction company, for Christ sakes! <br /><br />As the cluster f*ck at the NNSA labs continues, it's going to be almost impossible to keep the best scientists from leaving when they see all this new funding flooding into the non-NNSA labs like manna from heaven. The future of LANL seems to be cleanup, construction and plant maintenance with a a small amount of LDRD supported science done on the side for PR benefit. I wish this wasn't the case, but that's how I see it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-33772688647144796872009-06-01T21:45:38.569-06:002009-06-01T21:45:38.569-06:00I voted for Obama. I guess I deserve a ridiculous...I voted for Obama. I guess I deserve a ridiculously well- paying job. And an intelligent, sane president.<br />And I even get to keep my guns!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-77848245870772951322009-06-01T20:03:45.691-06:002009-06-01T20:03:45.691-06:00F-off 8:37 AM and your "data". I have my opinion ...F-off 8:37 AM and your "data". I have my opinion and that is enough for me, no data, so called facts, or numbers will change my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-39560969096656801852009-06-01T10:19:45.641-06:002009-06-01T10:19:45.641-06:006/1/09 9:47 AM - just to get YOUR facts right; nei...6/1/09 9:47 AM - just to get YOUR facts right; neither are all voters of Los Alamos county employed by LANL nor does LANL exclusively employ Los Alamos residents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-19356092450990897432009-06-01T08:37:41.784-06:002009-06-01T08:37:41.784-06:00""Los Alamos County, N.M. (home of Los Alamos). Ou...""Los Alamos County, N.M. (home of Los Alamos). Our wealthy, well-educated “Monied ’Burb” also flipped to Obama on Tuesday – by a slim 700 votes (5,709 for Obama and 4,986 for McCain). Obama’s win in the small county marks a significant change for the locale. Bush won here in 2004 by about 600 votes (5,810 for Bush and 5,206 for Kerry). And in 2000, this community went for Bush by a larger margin – about 1,500 votes."<br /><br /><br />That sinks the 6:44 pm's point.<br />Real data will sink these morans every time. <br /><br />"6:44 pm: "That's the demographic that makes up the bulk of LANL, and Los Alamos.""<br /><br />Note that 6:44 pm had no data he<br />only said that he lived in Los Alamos, ergo he knows. Let this be a lesson to all you idiots in this blog sphere, facts are your enemy,<br />facts will get you every time. Viva la facts!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-29903247233566983082009-06-01T06:41:25.637-06:002009-06-01T06:41:25.637-06:00In honor of 9:29 PM:
from the Patchwork Nation bl...In honor of 9:29 PM:<br /><br />from the Patchwork Nation blog http://patchworknation.csmonitor.com/csmstaff/2008/1107/obamas-big-win-through-the-eyes-of-11-communities/<br /><br />"Los Alamos County, N.M. (home of Los Alamos). Our wealthy, well-educated “Monied ’Burb” also flipped to Obama on Tuesday – by a slim 700 votes (5,709 for Obama and 4,986 for McCain). Obama’s win in the small county marks a significant change for the locale. Bush won here in 2004 by about 600 votes (5,810 for Bush and 5,206 for Kerry). And in 2000, this community went for Bush by a larger margin – about 1,500 votes.<br /><br />As we have noted over the past few days, Obama appears to have scored big in many of the “Monied ’Burb” counties. It could signal a shift for the Democratic Party."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-38825443437289858252009-06-01T06:18:43.128-06:002009-06-01T06:18:43.128-06:00Frank, write an editorial (new top post) of the 3-...Frank, write an editorial (new top post) of the 3-year anniversary of LANS.<br /><br />5/31/09 11:21 PM<br /><br />Why bother? This ongoing bitchy and degrading dialogue is exactly representative of the type of environment LANS management is cultivating at LANL these days. Way to go folks - Happy Anniversary!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-90879185965415082102009-05-31T23:21:30.518-06:002009-05-31T23:21:30.518-06:00Frank, write an editorial (new top post) of the 3-...Frank, write an editorial (new top post) of the 3-year anniversary of LANS.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-36661603023218600692009-05-31T22:06:38.520-06:002009-05-31T22:06:38.520-06:009:29 pm: "Well yes, 8:09. Facts, indeed."
Yet you...9:29 pm: "Well yes, 8:09. Facts, indeed."<br /><br />Yet you give no facts, just your predjudices and presuppositions. Typical of the liberal ilk. Maybe your "empathy" is more important than facts, yet you seem deficient in that area too. Your hatred for LANL and the community of Los Alamos is very evident. Too bad for you. If I felt I had to call the community I grew up in "morally bereft" and "cowardly" I would begin to question the origins of my own world view. So sad for you. <br /><br />BTW, if you think Espanola and Santa Fe consider themselves "one company towns" with Los Alamos you are lying about growing up here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-76117952437061486822009-05-31T21:52:48.307-06:002009-05-31T21:52:48.307-06:00What is the rational for keeping LANS, LLNS, and N...What is the rational for keeping LANS, LLNS, and NNSA afloat if they don´t take it 100% seriously to "Have a Reliable Stockpile," and at the same time feeding the anti-nukes within the White House, Congress, and amongst the general public, with their not fully reliable certification of the W76. (What about "fogbank," W78, W80, and other unknown issues?)<br /><br />On Memorial Day, Monday, May 25, 2009, North Korea detonate their second underground nuclear test, in conjunction with missile tests, Iran working 24/7/365 to become a nuclear power, the Taliban, and/or AQ to seize the Pakistani nukes, and Russia and China modernizing their nuclear arsenals, and its delivery systems, but the Pres. and Congress were essentially sleeping on the job, when they didn´t approve funding for modernizing the US nuclear arsenal, and its delivery systems, and to adopt the US missile defense, but they (the Obama administration) seek unnecessary arms deals with Russia, and an arbitrary number of 1,000 strategic nuclear weapons for the US.<br /><br />Wasn´t 9/11/01, and the second underground nuclear test (May 25, 2009) in North Korea enough for a wake-up call? Are you still sleeping?<br /><br />The White House and Congress in chorus: ZZZZZ, e.g. we do not care about the US nuclear weapons, and their delivery systems, but the Obama administration likes to appease the adversaries of US, clearly shown since January 20, 2009.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-70772585873894069232009-05-31T21:29:57.151-06:002009-05-31T21:29:57.151-06:00Well yes, 8:09. Facts, indeed.
I grew up in Los ...Well yes, 8:09. Facts, indeed.<br /><br />I grew up in Los Alamos, and then after college I came back and worked at the lab for a very long time.<br /><br />So, as it turns out, I am pretty much intimately familiar with the demographics of the LANL work force, and of the community as well. <br /><br />I even became one of those who moved to Santa Fe and continued to work at the lab, so I'm familiar with that particular "non Los Alamos LANL worker" demographic, in addition.<br /><br />To repeat what I suggested earlier: you'd have to look far and wide to find a less Fundamentalist Christian, conservative, Rush Limbaugh-loving, 'nukes above all else' society.<br /><br />That fact is that Los Alamos, and those outlying communities with economic ties to the lab comprise a virtual 'one company town'. Almost without exception, nobody who works there has any desire whatsoever to bite the hand that feeds them.<br /><br />A fair characterization of that community would be "morally bereft". <br /><br />"Cowardly" would be another.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-87949572828283182912009-05-31T20:09:46.937-06:002009-05-31T20:09:46.937-06:006:44 pm: "That's the demographic that makes up the...6:44 pm: "That's the demographic that makes up the bulk of LANL, and Los Alamos."<br /><br />You're so sure of your stereotype you might want to actually seek out some facts, such as the voter demographics in Los Alamos County over the past few elections. Plus, you have no way of knowing the demographics of LANL, where the majority of employees don't live in Los Alamos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-771036796781614972009-05-31T18:44:28.000-06:002009-05-31T18:44:28.000-06:00Well, ok 2:49. You can be an outlier if you want,...Well, ok 2:49. You can be an outlier if you want, but you might be surprised how well the stereotype fits: Right Wing, Republican, Fundamentalist Christian, card-carrying member of the NRA; "Obama is going to take our guns away", POGO lies, Nukes are good and essential. That's the demographic that makes up the bulk of LANL, and Los Alamos.<br /><br />It hasn't changed in 66 years, why should it change now?<br /><br />But enough of of that, back to the original theme here: NNSA's Tom D'Agostino got caught in a whopper of a lie. Why doesn't anybody in Washington care?<br /><br />(Hint: It's the same reason that nobody in Washington cared that George Peter Nanos got caught in a whopper of a lie in 2005.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-70442593645223210292009-05-31T14:49:33.780-06:002009-05-31T14:49:33.780-06:0012:58 here. Well, 1:05, just to further mess with ...12:58 here. Well, 1:05, just to further mess with your mind, I can't stand Palin or Pelosi, but I think Hillary is the smarter and more trustworthy of the Clintons. Also, I am not a fundamentalist Christian (not really even a Christian), but I do own guns and believe strongly that without the Second Amendment, the others are just worthless words. So there. As your most recent post implied, perhaps blanket categorizations and condemnations aren't particularly useful.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-21945862797869003512009-05-31T12:58:27.637-06:002009-05-31T12:58:27.637-06:0011:11 am: 5/30 9:58 pm here. I didn't post the oth...11:11 am: 5/30 9:58 pm here. I didn't post the other three you mentioned. It appears we're more numerous than you think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-28220200.post-9957285443443828912009-05-31T11:11:23.020-06:002009-05-31T11:11:23.020-06:00Nice try, Doug. But the very next news release fr...Nice try, Doug. But the very next news release from POGO that involves LANL will be again met by the "brayings" of LANL apologists. You know that some people will only believe what that want, regardless of facts.<br /><br />I know a few people like that. In fact, I suspect that 8:06, 11:32, 2:22, and 9:58, are not only the the same person, but I strongly suspect that he is one certain bitter deluded gun-loving Republican that I know, but wish I didn't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com