Apr 7, 2008

Can You Hear Me Now?

I have no phone calls nor emails from LANS to report today. The world is watching. Here are the stats from a few of the blog's recent visitors.
Domain Name sarov.ru ? (Russian Fed.)
IP Address 213.177.116.# (JSC SAROVSVJAZINFORM)
ISP OJSC VolgaTelecom
Location
Continent : Asia
Country : Russian Federation (Facts)
State/Region : Nizhegorod
City : Sarov

Domain Name iaea.org ? (Organization)
IP Address 161.5.131.# (International Atomic Energy Centre (IAEA))
ISP International Atomic Energy Centre (IAEA)
Location
Continent : Europe
Country : Austria (Facts)
State/Region : Wien
City : Vienna

19 comments:

Anonymous said...

Isn't there a nuclear weapons design lab at Sarov (aka: Arzamas-16)? Or if you prefer, "Los Arzamas" :)

Anonymous said...

Frank, I'm not suprised you've yet to hear from LANS. They have little interest in their own employees, so you can only imagine how they feel about those who don't even work here.

LANS LLC is nothing more than a corporation who prime purpose is to shovel as much cash as possible back to the corporate partners (Bechtel and BWXT) via profit fees and new construction projects. Many of the scientists still left at LANL are in strong denial about this situation, but it is what it is. The whole nature of LANL is changing right before our eyes.

Best of luck with your efforts. One thing you can be sure of is that the lab legal department is looking over every single piece of info they can dig up on "Frank Young". Of that you can be very sure.

Anonymous said...

Indeed.

Info here.

Frank Young said...

The lab legal department can do whatever they like. While they are at it perhaps they can explain what their role is in worker safety at the lab.

Maybe LANS will get better safety advice from Burson-Marsteller.

Anonymous said...

There was a great scene in the Michael Moore movie "Sicko" where 911 emergency workers had to go to Cuba to get adequate medical help.

Here's a thought. Maybe Arzamas-16 would be willing to look you over. It would be good PR for them. If you can't get any satisfaction from LANS or NNSA, perhaps you should consider making a call to Sarov.

Frank Young said...

Why send me? Send LANS to run the place (into the ground).

Anonymous said...

My guess is that Chris Chandler and friends at Legal are reading the blog everyday. You bet they are looking up any and everything they can on Frank YOung. In fact, since the lawyers in Legal were the last in their graduating classes and are unable to win a suit on their own, they have probably contact some big firm in SF to fight this case for them. It is what Lab Legal does - you know, LANL/LANS hires only the best and the brightest.

Anonymous said...

Can they mske what we cannot?

Anonymous said...

Maybe Arzamas-16 would be willing to look you over. It would be good PR for them.
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Anonymous said...

The issue is this; An employee of the Lab suffers exposure to one of the planet's most deadly substances--Pu, and the employee can't get any information from his employer (LANL) that will enable him to. determine the potential health effects stemming from this terrible incident. And what are people concerned about?-- Chris Chandler and her unethical colleagues in Lab legal that are always going to be more focused on covering the Lab's ass at all costs than
ensuring the Lab abides by health and safety laws that serve to protect workers and the public. Why isn't there a huge surge of outrage over the fact that one of our colleagues. (and his family) can be treated so shabbily? Aren't we outraged that our families and communities can be viewed as little more than collateral damage? When did the citizens of the Lab become the enemy? Are we really so afraid of challenging this corrupt, arrogant leadership in our midst?

Answer: Yes.

Anonymous said...

11:28 am: "one of the planet's most deadly substances--Pu"

Obviously you aren't very well informed. There are many, many cases of documented Pu uptake that have resulted in no ill effects over the years, including the Pu workers study conducted at LANL. In fact some argue that small exsposures to Pu may confer extra longevity (look it up). Your mindless hyperbole helps no one. Pu is an alpha emitting heavy metal, no more toxic than all the others, and considerably less toxic than many.

Frank Young said...

I think I'm pretty well informed but you can consider this an opinion; Pu is nasty stuff to be around. You can be exposed and not know it. It is dangerous in minute amounts. It will remain in your body and continue to irradiate you for the rest of your life. That radiation could cause damage leading to a cancer the first day you are exposed, 30 years later, or never. Rather than trusting to luck, do your best to never be exposed.

Anonymous said...

"You can be exposed and not know it."

While I don't disagree about the dangers, I do disagree with the sentence above. Pu exposure is pretty easy to track with the right equipment. If you have the safety systems of LANL, you cannot be exposed to Pu without determining your exact exposure.

Of course, without a national lab to back you up, all bets are off.

Frank Young said...

"If you have the safety systems of LANL, you cannot be exposed to Pu without determining your exact exposure."

I have to disagree with you on that part. The safety systems presume that you have honest data with which to plan a work activity. If spills are "handled" without being reported people will have to find out the hard way what really happened.

I'm not the first person to be contaminated at a LANL facility without even knowing it. I'll bet there are more.

Anonymous said...

Sorry Frank - I meant that Pu can be found using measurement instruments under the circumstances you describe, i.e. there is no technical reason for uncertainty. I can't warrant for bad behavior by the lab.

Anonymous said...

Mr. Frank Young,

Where is your lawsuit?

Anonymous said...

BTW....how does one become a blog admin like you?

Frank Young said...

There isn't one. What are you billing this time to? Or if you're working pro bono publico you are the perfect candidate to be a blog admin.

Anonymous said...

ouch Frank