Los Alamos National Laboratory: You know The Real Story. You know The Corporate Story. Now you'll know The Rest of the Story.
Whatever the final count, it has now been unmistakably shown that there are lots of formerly dedicated staff who have grown sick and tired and weary of the decline at LANL and are now ready to leave. Many will leave with sadness in their hearts for what LANL once was, but has now become.A high count is nothing for LANS management to crow about. It is a sure sign of just how bad things have become at this lab.
Lanl webpage - updated well after working hours - no surprise was advertising the final count of volunteers as 450.
The Albuquerque Journal is quoting 450...I guess the double dippers didn't come through. I hope they feel good about themselves.Greed, it's all about greed. No wonder this lab is falling apart.
Anonymous at 12/7/07 12:43 AM seems to think that the double dippers should all leave.Let me remind him or her that we earned what we are getting.
300 needed to feed the Corprate Machine, by Christmas....Who will be next?
To 12/7/07 12:43 AM:Jealous Jealous JealousTook what I had already earned. You act like any retirement I took out of UCRP comes out of your paycheck. LANS has to pay a salary to someone to do the work whether it's me or someone else.Get the fuck over it. If you can't deal with the issues then get the hell out and go someplace else where you can spew your poison.
Worst mistake they made were letting those who "retired" out of UCRP keep thier jobs. In most places in the world when you retire you actually leave your job, not keep working at the same salary and get technically an 11% raise. I don't blame them for not leaving, they were throwing money at them. I feel sorry for the ones that stick around when they have the financial means to leave and be comfortable. If I could leave I sure as hell would. Must be sad to have nothing, no family, no hobbies and no reason to leave your LANL job. I feel sorry they have no other life then LANL....think about that.
LANL got over 450 people to take an offer that basically gives them the same deal they would get if they were laid off. Amazing! Look for NNSA to interpret this as a green-light and begin instituting additional low-ball offers. Next to be hit will be TCP1 and TCP2, vacation and sick accruals, severance, retirement medical and finally, salaries. It's a fast march to the bottom from this point onward.We've come a long way from the old "3+3" days, baby!
Key phrase being, "if they were laid off."
The SSPers are outta here by 10 Jan. That's only a month from now.If you get laid off involuntarily, you get 60 days, right? That means the involuntaries get an extra month of pay that the SSPers don't get.Of course, you'll have to actually show up at work for those 60 days (or be "sick" with a doctor's excuse if you have enough sick accrual). But who, after learning they're to be laid off, will do anything but sit around and play solitaire and read the blog for those 60 days?
Hey, 9:08 PM, I believe Mikey said something to the effect that laid off workers would not be expected to be at work for all those 60 days (i.e., "we'll work something out with them"). Besides, you do NOT want angry, bitter laid off staff hanging around the office. It presents too many chances for bad things to happen and really bums out the survivors.
"Worst mistake they made were letting those who "retired" out of UCRP keep thier jobs."I took the UCRP retirement (at much less than 40% of salary) and kept working, because NNSA froze my pension more than six years earlier than I planned to retire with the maximum age factor. I went that route in order to pay my bills and keep food on the table for my family. When I finally quit working (if I last that long) six years from now, it'll be at a much lower standard of living than if I had been able to continue under UCRP the whole time.Unless you know the facts, which you apparently don't, quit whining about a perception that's not real. Not all the double-dippers are getting double their salary.
9:08 and 11:09, I believe there is policy in place to allow payment (15 days?) in lieu of 60 days notice . Why assume that only those who will be laid off will be given notice? Why not bulk mail notice to all those not excluded that they are at risk of being laid off, similar to what was done at LLNL?However it's done, those being laid off are given a few minutes to get some stuff together and escorted off the property. It's worthwhile to talk to some people who have worked at other sites.
"However it's done, those being laid off are given a few minutes to get some stuff together and escorted off the property." 12/8/07 6:56 AM is 100% correct. At the NTS several weeks ago, they had a bus ready to head out the gate early in the morning of the layoffs - all those let go were off the site well before 10:00 a.m. IIRC, they even had a truck arranged to deliver boxes of belongings back into town. Unfortunately, that's the way it happens.
"However it's done, those being laid off are given a few minutes to get some stuff together and escorted off the property." This is 100% correct. In the nuclear plant building days....you were escorted off site by 2 guards when you were told of your lay-off. After they went through your stuff, they boxed it up and sent it to you. You could only take your lunch and your briefcase, after they went through them. PTLA has been training on this all summer. "How to handle/ escort laid off employees off the property".This is it for me. I am done done done with all the stress and trama we are put through. I am going back to industry where I understand the rules of engagement. After all of us who can leave, do....lets see how the leftovers who think they were born into royalty handle the Lab.
Anyone who actually wants to know how the process of getting escorted out works at LANL need go no further than my post to the "LANL: The Real Story blog" from July 2004. Been there, done that courtesy of good old Pete Nanos; thank you very much.
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